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    What do you expect from a non profit organization for rosacea? Should the administrators and founders of the non profit organization use most of the donations to pay private contractors that are owned by the director of the non profit organization who also sits on the board of directors? Or should the non profit for rosacea spend most of its donations on conventions for dermatologists?

      by Brady Barrows, Founder, RRDi

      The chief reason I formed the RRDi was when I began investigating how the National Rosacea Society (NRS) spends its donated funds (60%) on private contractors spending about 10% for rosacea research. However, the sad reality is that most rosacea sufferers could care less how the NRS spends its donations. If they did they would do something about this. If you do care, why not read the facts below: 

      On average over many years, the NRS spends approximately 10% to 11% on rosacea research while receiving in donations millions of dollars. To put that in terms you can easily understand, for every dollar the NRS receives in donations 10 cents is spent on rosacea research. The rest goes mostly, over 60%, to private contractors that are owned by the president/director of the NRS, Sam Huff. 

      The NRS is a 501 c 3 non profit organization. Many are unaware that all non profits who make $50,000 or more in a year are required to file Form 990 with the Internal Revenue Service of the USA which is then public knowledge for anyone to read. In the past Form 990 has not required disclosure of who donated the funds (in 2015 there was a notable change about disclosure of donated funds) however, the non profit organization is required to show the percentage of funds from the public or whether the funds are private donations. Several years ago I began reading the Form 990 that the NRS reports and was shocked at how the funds were spent. I encourage you to read all these Form 990 reports that the NRS files with the IRS.

      For instance, in 1998 the NRS received in donations $1,148,375 (over a million dollars!). Of this, only 2.15% of this amount was from the public while 97.85% of this amount came from pharmaceutical companies. Of this total amount the NRS spent only $16,118 (1.5%) on rosacea research. [1] That means that for every dollar donated in 1998 only 1.5 cents was spent that year on rosacea research. To put this in a visual graph see below:
      The total expenses that year were $830,856 of which $516,156 (62%) was spent on one private contractor, Sam Huff and Associates. Sam Huff is the director of the NRS. At the time, I thought $1.1 million dollars could be better spent. Why wasn't $1 million spent on rosacea research and the rest on running the organization? I thought rosacea sufferers could do a lot better with donated funds than how the NRS has been spending donated funds. This was the first Form 990 that I read and it knocked my socks off. Are you not shocked as well? Read the NRS Form 990 for 1998 yourself if you have doubts.

      I then discovered a lot about non profits by educating myself on how they work. For example, I learned that many non profit organizations spend very little on their 'mission' and give huge amounts of donated funds to the directors, salaried employees, or to private contractors. For more information on this, read Comparing Non Profit Organizations with Research.

      It is not easy to form a non profit organization. The IRS has made it quite difficult to obtain the 501 c 3 recognition. Basically non profits can organize just about any way they want but getting the IRS to recognize and approve a non profit is another matter that would take too many paragraphs to explain. However, I was able to form the RRDi and get the IRS to approve our non profit and have the recognition letter to prove it. However running a non profit with total volunteers is another matter that is something to write about later. Back to the NRS. I kept following how the NRS spends its donated funds as a non profit.

      The pattern of the NRS since 1998 has been basically the same. 1998 was the only year that the NRS spent only 1.5% on rosacea research. The years since that banner year of 1998 when the NRS received over $1.1 Million US Dollars the NRS has decided to up the money on rosacea research from 1.5% to about 10% on average. Whatever the amount donated the total spending on rosacea research remains about 10 per cent on average after that banner year of 1998. It should be noted that during this same period around 60% of the donations is spent to private contractors owned by Sam Huff, director of the NRS. From 2001 on, the name of the private contractor was changed to Glendale Communications Group, Inc., owned by Sam Huff, and Park Mailing and Fulfillment, Inc., also owned by Sam Huff (view screenshots of the Illinois corporate lookup search results). Most of those years the NRS spent about 10% of its total donations each year on rosacea research. That means that for every dollar donated to the NRS about ten cents is spent on rosacea research. On average for many years around 60% of the donated funds are spent on private contractors owned by the director of the NRS. [2]

      My posts and comments about the NRS for succeeding years are listed in the end notes. [3]

      The other non profit for organization that spends most of its donations on conventions for dermatologists is the AARS

      What do you think a non profit for rosacea should spend its donations on?

      Brady Barrows RRDi Director

      End Notes

      [1] NRS Form 990 for 1998

      [2] NRS Form 990 Spreadsheet 1998 thru the most recent published

      [3] Review of NRS Form 990 for previous years

      My post and comment on how the NRS spent donations in 2013 can be read by clicking here.

      My post and comment on how the NRS spent donations in 2014 can be read by clicking here.

      My post and comment on how the NRS spent donations in 2015 can be read by clicking here.

      My post and comment on how the NRS spent donations in 2016 can be read by clicking here.


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      • Soolantra at drugs.com costs $389/30 grams    
      • Trillium. Soolantra is a 1% Ivermectin cream in the "soothing" Cetaphil like base according to a post by Galderma. The tricky bit with the 1% liquid solution is that adding it to the cream base will dilute it more so that the resulting mix is less than 1%.  If its already 1% you may actually best use the liquid solution directly onto clean skin.  Try a few drops on the palm and smooth it on the face like a thin facial serum.  The 1% liquid is the right strength to be effective already.  Let it dry.  Optionally you could apply a moisturizer like Cetaphil or whatever you prefer after the Ivermectin solution dries.  That should help eliminate the messy issues with the horse paste. As Brady says, your best bet to make a 1% mix would be to use the Ivermectin powder.  I'm not sure what the Percent strength of the powder is - if its mixed with something it might be less than 100% pure.  The percentage will impact how much Cetaphil cream to mix with the powder.  To be a match for the strength of Soolantra the ratio should dilute the powder to 1% strength when mixed with the Cetaphil. You only have to use the Soolantra once per day at night - that is when the mites are active.  So there shouldn't be any need to wear it under makeup during the day.  That may help with the makeup issue. I totally agree with you about the absurd costs.  Ivermectin has been a generic drug for quite some time and is not that expensive.  By my rough calculations Soolantra has less than $20 worth of Ivermectin per tube.  So selling it for $600+ per tube is obscene.' ElaineA
      • Trillium,  Tom Busby, SD poster extraordinare at RF, mentioned in a post on this subject at RF, "an alternative source of ivermectin, on eBay" which is ivermectin powder. I asked Tom whether this would be a good idea since it seems a lot safer to use the horse paste than have to concoct a paste with grain alcohol and his comment is, "horse paste is fairly expensive for a really tiny amount of product.... I have to assume that someone who has some experience formulating hot emulsions (oil in water) could make a non-greasy cream with this ivermectin powder." There is a formulae based upon weight how much ivermectin to use per pound of body weight.  You mention using the Cetaphil base for your concoction. Have you used Cetaphil? No issues with Cetaphil? Some have reported they cannot tolerate Cetaphil, while others just love it. We have a post explaining the 'basis for vehicle' regarding the use of Cetaphil with Soolantra that should prove illuminating to you. Some prefer the smaller amount of inactive ingredients in horse paste over using the huge amount of inactive ingredients in Cetaphil based Soolantra. There are a significant number of brands of horse paste and each one has similar but different inactive ingredients which are discussed in this thread. We have found two brands that actually list the inactive ingredients, but most brands do not list the inactive ingredients since they are not required to do so.  As for price of Soolantra have you contacted Galderma about the CareConnect program that you may qualify for?  As for the high prices pharmaceutical companies charge in the USA which is related to the medical insurance conglomerate and the universal health insurance issue, yes, it is sad that medical treatment is for the rich, similar to the way justice is given. If you are rich you definitely have an advantage in the USA for justice and medical treatment. But there are some work arounds, where philanthropic organizations help the poor with the money donated by rich benefactors but obviously not enough is given to alleviate these issues. Our non profit organization tries to help in small ways by educating Rosaceans on alternative treatments like ElaineA has done in this thread. Hopefully, you will figure out your own ivermectin solution. Are you confident that using ivermectin actually controls your rosacea? Ivermectin doesn't work for every rosacean. Which brand of horse paste 'leaves a goopy mess on your face at night' ? Have you tried using the horse paste on at night and then washing it off in the AM? Most use Soolantra this way, only use at night. Horse paste is usually only put on at night and then washed off in the AM.  Keep us posted.   
      • I have tried the ivermectin horse paste but it leaves a goopy mess on your face at night.No way to wear it under makeup either. It helps but I also use SAL3 which is a sulfur soap with salicylic acid (3%) which seems to do a better job of keeping the face clean too. I am now wanting to make my own invermectin cream that will not be such a goopy  mess. I have ordered Agrimectin Ivermectin injection 50ml at 1% which is a sterile solution on Amazon for about $28.00. I also picked up some Cetaphil moisturizing cream which is also made by Galderma the same company that makes Soolantra. I plan to mix the Cetaphil cream with the Agrimectin solution and make up my own ivemectin cream since my insurance doesn't cover Soolantra for Rosacea. Soolantra is still like about $660.00 a tube which is just ridiculous and highway robbery. I was given this Soolantra about 10 yrs ago and it was $600.00 then and I had to pay a $60.00 copay for it. Now the insurance companies are not going to pay the monster's (Galderma) game anymore with over inflated prices and I don't blame them. The more you pay them the more they get away with these insane practices. I think if we have more reasonable alternatives they will have to lower the price to get any sales. I have read where others around the world are paying so much less than the $660.00 that is price fixed in the U.S. I feel like Galderma treats American patients like their own parasites the way they have no regard for how most folks can't afford this price fixing they play on us. I also have 2ml syringes and not sure how much Agrimectin Invermectin to use with how much cream to make an effective cream for Rosacea. My dermatologist did try to send me to use www.userphil.com for Soolantra for about $70.00 a tube but this San Francisco start up has horrible reviews and even the BBB has rated them an F! Apparently on the website they used all this high profile company names that wrote articles about them but when the BBB tried to get proof on this or clarification the company never responded. The arrogance of these Silicon Valley investors is just astounding. This vacuum that this price fixing has created is attracting unsavory sharks to enter into the fray. Also if the prescription gets lost in the mail then you can't get a replacement. I know these Silicon Valley investors are smacking their lips over the idea of owning a huge market share of the 300 billion dollar online pharmacy sector business. These investors have over promised and left customers in the lurch. The reviews from customers are just horrible. I think only 54% recommended them on Hiya. A common term reviewers use is liars in regards to their experiences with this online site. I would like to make small maybe weekly batches of my own ivermectin cream if this cream can stay stable for a week. I found using the horse paste helped initially when I had a horrible outbreak but then  I found it created an environment where it wasn't as effective since you have this moist gel on your face that kind of gets all over your hair and pillows and also seems to make the Rosacea revert back a bit and not sure why that is. SAL3 seems to dry out the skin and helps it when the horse paste stops working as well. Thanks for any help you can provide in how to figure out the recipe for ivermectin cream using a liquid ivermectin solution.   
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